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    H1000 vs retumbo. I traded all my Retumbo off for H1000 years ago.

    H1000 vs retumbo Nov 13, 2011 205 4 58. Retumbo would be a good substitute, in stock at lots of places in the last couple weeks. 300 PRC, but then again, the 250 might benefit from the Retumbo's slightly slower burn. I use Retumbo also in Retumbo is slower than H1000. Jul 27, 2021 #5 Jul 27, 2021 #5 bunny too said: Woo Boy! You will get some opinions on this one. I settled at 82. Nicholas Well-Known Member. . Reactions: lancetkenyon. Have This is ultimately my gun for shooting with a local long range shooting club and I have been acquiring components to reload and I am currently stuck on deciding between Hodgdon's H1000 and H4831/H4831SC powders to put under a 168 grain Nosler Accubond LR bullet in Nosler brass with CCI LR Magnum primers. I have had problems in high temps with both ball and double base powders going overboard and popping primers, I learned, if you up your loads in hot temps, you won't get I have switched to Retumbo. Reactions: Ledzep and waveslayer. 2= IMR7828 69. Retumbo, RL25, H1000, IMR7828 are all better choices for the 7RM with heavy bullets. Reactions: 338 dude. J. I shot the 300 Sierra but liked the 300 Berger Elite better. Sharing as a good alternative if you need it. , 24" bbl. I know the 210 bergers are pretty popular so I will probably load for those and maybe mess around with the accubonds at a later date. If ur going. 5 Gr and got 1/2 moa groups. Reactions: 284winner, Earnhardt, Quadragger and 3 So I am getting in a 280 AI from Score High here pretty soon, I'll be using nosler brass CCI 200's and 168gr Bergers. That is 1. H4831sc also shot 0. 300WM and 208 AMAX from a 26 inch tube? H1000, RETUMBO or H4831/SC . The other load was with 168s was around 3250. It may have been due to a 20" barrel. 630 Magazine fed (Non-CIP) [Custom Wolf Precicion] 2. #28 I was recently doing a lot of research on the 869 vs Retumbo. Plenty of load data between my 3 apps to safely work up. mt100gr. R. RETUMBO!! To be honest I have H1000 on hand to work with the 6. My question has to do with charge size. 0 3269 59,500 PSI. Right now I use N560 and H4831SC on my 250's and H1000 and N570 on my 300's. For a 338 Lapua with 300gr projectiles (either Sierra or Berger), I prefer Re33 over Retumbo or H1000. 075 jump. A little more speed from Retumbo, easily breaking the 2900 mark. I try it often. 264" 63. H1000 powder features a unique grain shape and size designed to maximize loading density and efficiency. In a short period of time this powder has achieved considerable popularity among long-range match shooters. Re: H1000, Retumbo or MagPro best for 300wm? If you have extra length in your magazine to seat the bullet out further, then I would use Retumbo. The article was comparing power levels and one was a 458 lot vs 470 NE On just about all of our 7mm's and even my 28 Nosler Retumbo has been the magic powder. Bottom line, when I want to slow a load down I reach for the H1000. scdogman OP. 0= RL-26 70. Jjh1982 Well-Known Member. 5 3005 51,900 PSI 67. Dec 7, 2023 #16 aachey Lil-Rokslider. N570 is one of the hottest burning magnum powders and will erode the throat 30-40% faster than Retumbo or H1000, speed comes at a price. 025 OL . May 19, 2019 #6 hseII Member the H1000 @ 3,000fps would be my pick. retumbo is excellent for 220 t0 240 grain bullets. There are burn rate charts "Google" you can print and most load manuals will give case fill percentages. Re: 28 nosler with H1000 and Retumbo [Re: scdogman] #6742578 04/22/17 02:59 AM: Joined: Nov 2010. Either powder works very well but I've settled on Retumbo to take advantage of the higher velocity. I settled on 66. Dec 2, 2024 They shoot day in and day out. If I continue to load up the H1000 attempting to get close to launching a 168 gr Sierra MK at 3200 fps as I get with the Retumbo, I start getting severely flattened primers and I get nervous about pushing any harder. The velocity gain was substantial. Other 338 Lapua shooters is getting good result with H1000 also. Staff member. Try them both. Last edited: Oct 17, 2021. 5= Retumbo Loading the 140 A-Max with: If you are looking at direct comparison to those listed, then IMR 7977 is same as H1000 and IMR 8133 is the same as Retumbo, both IMR powders are Temp insensitive just as the Hodgdon powders. The **** gun has taken me way too long to find something the 212 likes. Here's the temperature versus MV data from my . I was very impressed/surprised for zero load development. Settled on RL26. Nov 19, 2002 #1 Does anyone have any experience with H1000 and Retumbo in 338 Lapua or the Ultra Mags? I found that RL-33 to be quite a bit denser than Retumbo, in fact Retumbo was the least dense of the powders that I have used in my 6. Aug 7, 2019 #12 I started with Retumbo and IMR8133 with both 208gr and 225 gr. 5 and 58, the plan was to shoot one each over the magnetospeed to get the speeds and foul the bore. 5 grains and getting 2880 from a 24" tube. Minuteman. With H1000 he started getting a sticky bolt with Forums. Some is on the way now, which should make it into distribution by April. Jr4 That's interesting. I pressured out in both cartridges at lower velocities with both H1000 and RL26. The velocity spread was 2 for the three shots. Open new ticket. May 28, 2012. Reply. 243 using 105s and 107s. Personally, I think H-1000 is still a bit to slow. RL26 will be the do it all powder for all weight ranges. Reactions: WYO300RUM. The problem is that it's absolutely the dirtiest powder I've ever used so I For H1000 RL25 fastest at . 050 jump. Check Brownells, I realize that H1000 is a bit faster, and 26" isn't exactly a long barrel in . bullets in my 338 Lapua but Retumbo is better and US869 is better yet. R33 will get higher speeds, but at the cost of being temp sensitive. I feed my rifle nothing but 300 grain SMK, just because my barrel has 9. Haven't ran N570 because I save that for my 300 Norma. 338 lapua. I understand, and have experienced first hand a change in both H1000 and Retumbo, requiring less powder over the last couple of years. If you only shoot 50 rounds a year I wouldn't be concerned about throat erosion. 5 PRC (24") for brake in, going out at 2775, for kicks and since I have 8lbs of Retumbo vs 1 lb of H1000 ran same grains That is serious power, I'm just starting my rl33 load work. I get 2820FPS with 76gr of H1000. Witch one is the slower and faster burning powder out of the two. Then I was sitting around thinking, maybe Retumbo would get a little more speed, so again curiosity won out. h1000 and retumbo r always good choices. H1000 and H4831sc would be my next choices . Full Member. Latest: liber; A moment ago; Long H1000 is a fine powder. I don't see the swings with H1000 or Retumbo as I do the RL-26. 300 Remington Ultra Magnum and the . The rate it gets bought up scares me. 30-378 Weatherby Magnum, although I do feel The powders we used in this test are: H1000, Retumbo, Vihtavuori 565, H4831SC, IMR 8133, and Reloader 23. Campfire Greenhorn. Re 33 gave me more velocity with less pressure. LRH Supporter. Before I did a tube swap, I was using 73. I agree that H1000 works great with 160 grain bullets but my gun will also shoot 140 grain bullets using H1000. I still have a few lbs of H1000 sitting on the shelf collecting dust. Supporter. N570 has generally produced slightly higher velocities over H1000 in the bigger 30s I have tested. 38's N560 H1000 --at . Nov 2, 2018 2,572 2,812. So I'm not sure if it really is more bulky. If you are seating it near factory length, then H1000 would be the ticket. H1000 vs RL 26. I have a 26in Krieger on it, and used both the Berger 210 VLDs and 208 Amax. Recent H1000 was very accurate, but lowest velocities of all powders I tried in my gun. Apr 2, 2011 #4 Apr 2, 2011 #4 Re: H4831 vs Retumbo All three are in the H1000 Retumbo range. Thread starter Vol1975; Start date Jan 12, 2020; When I asked about h1000 they told me they didn't expect a shipment for a while. 11 0 0. 745 (lands at 3. 2 2942 54,500 PSI 64. Both Retumbo and H1000 have been easy to get for a while now not so much with R26. 5x284. 0 3064 60,700 PSI. Latest reviews Author list. Especially brownells, which is in stock currently. 5 at impressive velocities. May 19, 2021 #8 Dang Len. H1000, Retumbo and H50BMG: Rounding out the series of Hodgdon Extreme powders is a trio of very slow-burning powders, suitable for the fastest cartridges yet developed. Seems as if the N570 is dirty though compared to H1000 and Retumbo. Knee Surgery, 4 Days and a Wake-up. Vihtavuori N565 – Hard to Find, The Newest Hotness? N565 has been gaining popularity for 6. 33's IMR 8133 slowest at around . I can achieve the same . Retumbo vs RL33 vs VVN570. I was hoarding all my h1000 for my 300WM load and have plenty of retumbo. With my 338L it' a coin toss between Retumbo and H1000, but similiar to the OP, my interest in testing both was to use my H1000 supply with the 338 and conserve my Retumbo that gives the best performance in my 300WM and 6. We figured 338 Lapua needed a slow burning powder to fully utilized it's full potential. Joined Jun 14, 2021 Messages 330. 129 GR. CA MPR 26” 1:8 Twist ADG Brass (Virgin) CCI 250. Mar 24, 2023 #10 J. 300 PRC with the 225 Grain ELD-M. ) Caliber = internal diameter of a barrel bore, outside diameter of a bullet Cartridge = casing containing a bullet, powder and primer. Once you have you PRC list those loads! We're guessing everyone has seen the new announcement from Hornady on the 7 PRC. 5x1lb - H4895 $50/lb 5x1lb - RL26 $60/lb 1k - Federal GM155M large magnum pistol match primers $90 1k The Retumbo will be used in a 7mm rm 24" inch barrel with a 162 gr projectile. I have loads worked up with 88. H1000, Retumbo and H50BMG all develop fantastic velocities. David Emerson. Joined Jan 29, 2014 Location NW MT. double guns for hunting in Africa. Reactions: Juggerxxx. Mahziar. 5 MOA groups, just a little Hodgdon believes they are now ahead of the problems and will have more success shipping the Australian powders in 2020. Matt H4350 is a faster burning powder and is used a lot in . 34's RL26 Retumbo at . With H1000 is a fine powder. HDY SP WinSup780 . May 19, 2019 #7 DoubleGobble00 Member. Here are my reference loads for WM and PRC the 300-WM is a MPA Comp Chassis, and the 300-PRC is my Barrett MRAD. at 70. I can speak for that one but, Retumbo is slower than H1000 and, since I'm trying to get the best velocity out of this thing, I may try some retumbo to see how that goes. I am concerned about Retumbo's reputed tendency for pronounced pressure spikes toward the top end of ladder tests. Retumbo, another popular choice, H1000 often wins out for its slightly slower burn rate, which can provide a bit more flexibility in load development for certain calibers. the rem mag will shoot em but with alot lower velocities. I switched from H1000 to Retumbo used with Berger 215's, 210 HVLD's and 200gr ELD-X's a few years back. 338 Improved and thought it ran pretty good. Would love to see what others are having success with. H1000 or Retumbo loads #2250393 06/11/08. I found that I could consistently get an extra 75-100FPS(2900-2950FPS) velocity over H1000. Ditto with Retumbo. I'm getting ready to load some 162 grain Hornady A-max bullets for my 7mm Remington Magnum and I'm considering RL-22, Retumbo, H1000, Winchester WMR, and IMR 4831. We IMR 7828 vs H1000. This powder shortage is a killer. RL-26 or H1000 for 200 gr bullets. I use Retumbo in my 300WM Rem 700 Milspec. Getting ready to develop a new load for my 257 Roy with these powders using 100 grain ttsx. Posts: 79. Thread starter HANGum HIGH; Start date Mar 13, 2022; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum – Expert Gear Reviews & Tactical Tips H1000, retumbo, N570, rl 26, magnum powders. 3 Retumbo is in the middle more or less of these. Mar 18, 2023 #2 I could've probably gone a little higher with H1000 but I stopped at 73 grains. 3. Been playing with my 7PRC trying to find a load that I’m happy with. I don't know any reason it would be the opposite. Just shot 9/16" group at 200 yards (three shots) last weekend. Retumbo gave an additional 30fps or so, but the ES averaged a good 25-35fps. H4831 didn't get me where I was going. Joined Apr 21, 2018 Messages 1,572 Location Northern Nevada. Oct 17, 2021 #2 FURMAN LRO Rifle and Gear Review Editor. mdesign Gunny Sergeant. Retumbo burned dirty for me and was not as consistant as the VV powders. I do get some amazing velocities with it. or 300 wsm. Would have also loved to get some Reloader 26 in this test, however finding some to evaluate proved difficult at best. Here's 30 Nosler. This is a factory winchester rifle. I did notice in my gun the closer to the rifling the better I am chasing some loads for a 264 win mag. a little more then I H1000, IMR4831 or Retumbo? Thread starter Azone; Start date Jan 3, 2019; Jan 3, 2019 #1 Azone WKR. to. Joined May 27, 2015 Messages 5,292 Reaction score 6,556 I tried some 217 a few years back when I was just completely out of luck getting RL33 and H1000. The H1000 is slower burning and better suited for the magnums such as the 28 nosler and 300 norma. I realize that H1000 is a bit faster, and 26" isn't exactly a long barrel in . This was near the max load. Velocity 2689 at 70 N170 is closer to Retumbo. Thread starter Nicholas; Start date Nov 19, 2002; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. S. 0 grains, win cases, Fed 215M primers. 5PRC but after working with the retumbo (so far) I'll stick with retumbo! No need to get off the OneHoling train! Reply. Cheers . should be a great rig. H1000 gives me single digit ES in my 7 mags with velocity in the 3020-3040fps range. I have read on a few sites that the 25-06 is easy to load for and will take many diffrent powders well. I heard Retumbo usually runs faster than H1000. Of course velocity is not the whole story. I have a pretty hefty supply of both powders and bullets, so was curious on what you guys are using. I've tried h1000, Rl23, RL26, h4831sc and they all have shot good. At the time I was chasing velocity and new to reloading and the retumbo was faster. I traded all my Retumbo off for H1000 years ago. 5 FPS per degree. E. The rifle is a blueprinted 700, 26" 1:9 Bartlein M24 5r, manner T4A stock, Timney trigger, NF scope base, vortex razor 5-20 w/ seekins rings, and etc. Loaded 4 each H1000, 210 primer, Bertram brass . About . Posts: 516. Have been running RL 22 but it's been a love, hate relationship getting consistancy so I'm 89. When I want to go screaming fast the choice is RL-33. But wow the accuracy and speed with low And out of the big 3 powders, it sounds like retumbo is the ticket, then h1000, and then rl26? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . Made in Australia. H-1000 I have used H1000 and Retumbo in my 24", 300WM, both delivering excellent accuracy, ES, and temperature stability. 715 / 3. And loaded 4 up to shoot on paper. Link to post Share on other sites. 300PRC, 30 Nosler, . The Vhit is expensive and sometimes hard to find (for me) but it sure does 8133 is very similar to H1000 but is far from Retumbo, (it burns much faster than Retumbo. RT2506 Well-Known Member. Using 210 and 215 Berger’s, Generally running 2890-2910 with 76gr H1000 and 2960-2980 with 79gr Retumbo, both max, <. Posted by Timothy Meade on Sep 23rd 2024 This powder was very accurate in my 6. 960") and 56 gr H1000 with Hornady 153 A-Tips on a new 6. My current load is; 77. 3 grains Retumbo or H1000 Lapua Cases (Necks Reamed and Turned) CCI 250's or 215M 2. 4 read around 3050 and 70. IMR 8133 was a direct swap for H1k load in 338 Edge. R33 is not a powder for me. 2X Fired ADG brass (Weight ~245 gr HDY SP Retumbo . Best I was able to glean was that 869 is just too slow unless My favorite 300WM, a Rem 700 Milspec 300WM, 24" barrel runs 2900FPS with Berger 210/215's using 79gr Retumbo, Fed 215M primers, Norma brass. Hornady also has data, and RL25 looks fastest, followed by N560, RL26, & H1000. Anybody have some good loads for 338 win. Id rock that IMR 4831 without hesitation. I would think you'll have better luck w/ a slower powder than H4831. I've only tried H1000 and RL26 in the 7PRC. ES is also important and while RL-33 is decent in this department H1000 is no slouch either. Share this post. 3 n570 coal 3. I tried everything to make Retumbo work. RL25 gave me the highest velocity, 3050 fps, with the lowest pressure signs H1000 is on the other end of the spectrum. My 300-WM and 300-PRC really like Retumbo. hawkinsprecision. Sure Retumbo was always a little faster, but H1000 was always more I can get higher velocities with the Retumbo than the H1000. Joined Sep 30, 2019 Messages 247 Location Pennsylvania. 0 n570 load vs the 92. I ended up 10 in. Joined: Mar 2008. wasskeet Well-Known Member. Retumbo does fairly better with the heavier 140+ bullets. like 101gr with 300gr scenars. mag. Sounds like N570 Thanks again . Feb 19, 2014 #1 Feb 19, 2014 pushed the bullets faster than all but Retumbo, and case capacity was around 93-95% with the ssc in the . Jan 22, 2024. I've been searching a little on HD. Dec 7, 2023 We are trying to look for actuall shooters changing from H1000 or Retumbo to another Brand and #. Retumbo, 147 ELD-M View attachment 351595 7mm Rem Mag. I also found many to say that the H4831sc was a great powder for the 25-06 however many felt it worked best pushing bullets under 100gr and In addition, with heavy bullets, H1000 gives top velocity and performance in such cartridges as the 6mm-284, 257 Weatherby, 270 Winchester, and 300 Winchester Magnum. But is harder on throats in a rifle that gets shot "a lot". shoot the 180s and get the velocity u want ur going to need a stw. Luckily I've acquired enough powder to weather the storm but that doesn't help the average guy that needs a couple lbs for his hunting rig. OP. My factory Rem 700 liked imr7828ssc for 150/160's. Haven’t had any luck locating any locally or online for some time so I thought I’d throw this out there. Nosler #8 manual lists 94. 260. I'm shooting the Berger 180 LRHT. Also, as expected no such data for 300wsm but does list Staball 6. I have found similar relationship between the two I would say Retumbo is to slow in burn rate for the 7mm Rem Mag which will likely be the reason for the higher ES. My Since this is still alive- we did have excellent results with the 565- better than Retumbo and H1000. Tikka action 22” Proof prefit 180gr Hybrid ADG brass 215 primers 2x1lb - H1000 $55/lb 1x8lb - Retumbo $380/jug I also have a few more items to add. 681 Savage H1000 ~ 2752 fps Retumbo - Do not recall * Initially ran HIGHER NODE in Custom before switching to H1000 * Ran LOWER NODE in Savage (Never tried 92. 264" 60. 5 inch groups using H4350 powder. Hope this is helpful in this time of shortage trying to H1000, with a 160g bullet, works well in the 7mm RM (68-70 grains) usually when barrel length is 24 inches or better. Thanks! M. 56, 56. IMO, H1000 performed like shit for my winmag. Which of the above is the least temp I've been playing with my 300 win Mag and the 220SMk's. Since my barrel was already slow, I moved on. I use H1000 in my 7STW with 140-145 gr. Full case to the bottom of the neck: 72. #7 - Concerning a 180g bullet in th '06 AI, H1000 did not give me the speed that RL22 does. It's slower than 50bmg which I have used and while it grouped under moa it was a little slow it is also compressed. 33's H1000 is in the middle of all of these. N. it is a single base powder (no nitro) therefore it is more tolerant of temp changes. Joined Oct 25, 2020 Messages 67 Location I've tried the Retumbo, H1000, and N565 in 6. Mar 17, 2022 #17 35WhelenAI WKR. or 264 win mag? Have some powder to burn and my load books do not have many loads for these powders. 5 grains of H1000, 215 berger hybrids in a 29" barrel. Now, of course, can't find any more of the 565. Joined I've been running at just under mag length (2. 3 twist rate. 300WM, . Retumbo will get a little more velocity than H1000 with a 26"+ barrel. VS the higher nodes that are very narrow windows generally. containers. 25 MOA accuracy with ES under 10 FPS. For example, look at the Nosler factory load data. Retumbo, which I dont shoot very much of, is a tick slower than h1000. Vol1975; Jan 12, 2020; 3 4 5. For now I’m sticking with N570. 300WM. h1000 retumbo n570 Berger 156 eol. For pure performance it sucks compared to RL-33. H1000, Retumbo, RL25) in the . We started development with Retumbo and 154 interbonds. Available in 1 lb. I believe with more load development however, the H1000 load would be more consistent in velocity. There is also Retumbo that is a little slower yet and it's used in the bigger magnum calibers. I have an excellent load with the berger 140 vld and retumbo at 3030fps so I'm not too worried if the 156s dont This a new test and didn’t have the best results with H1000, so I’m trying Retumbo that I have on hand to try. That being said they are excellent powders. Sep 18, 2024 #2 RustyInOR Member. I was getting pressure with H4350 at 2750 fps but no pressure signs with Retumbo. I tried H1000 and Retumbo. My rifle is a Christensen Arms Ridgeline 24" barrel. guntender OP. Nov 2, 2004 2,134 10 Nebraska. 243 and the smaller 6. 2 gr. of H1000, 300gr Berger Hybrid, 215 primer, Lapua brass, . 0= RL-33 71. H1000 VS N570 ( 28 nosler) Thread starter dave_halsey; Start date Jul 29, 2020; Retumbo, H1000. Vihtavuori N170 starting load = 67. ("TACT" vs "Hybrid Target") Hodgdon H1000 starting load = 69. Found a really good load with 208gr and Retumbo running 3040fps. I've had good luck with N560 with both but stick with N570 and Retumbo on the 300's and N560 on the 250's. Now you read of some using Retumbo (quite slow) in calibers like 25-06 which I tried and got bughole groups. Retumbo can be temp sensitive but very predictable and thus consistent. H1000 and Retumbo were quite scarce last year, but I have seen, and passed up because I now have plenty, H1000 in stores this year. i believe that reloader 25 is a double base powder so it will be more sensitive to temp changes. Sep 21, 2019 #18 waveslayer Active member. 5 gr below max in the berger book. The first photo is the is the Retumbo pressure test which had like 7 inches of Retumbo is close to H1000. I haven't ever had luck with Retumbo. I usually see higher velocity numbers from retumbo than from H1000 with heavies, but I always get tighter ES and SD with H1000, even though H1000 is a bit slower. 75 I have . The only other powder that comes close to H1000 is IMR7828, but I find it much more temp sensitive. For ease, H1000 will work well. How does that load shoot? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro . C. Mar 17, 2022 #16 I hunt_dm3 WKR. Support. 36's Ramshot Magnum RL26 Acc Magpro Slowest at . 8 read over 3100 but had a sticky bolt so we settled on 70. Was looking for suggestions on retumbo or H1000? I am loading for 210 bergers and possibly 200 accubonds. I'm stuck using LRT as an example. Replies 65 Views 21K. After being at the right place at the right time, I also had two pounds of it to try right before publishing this data. RL-26 is at least 100 ft/sec faster than H1000 and temp stable. but other powders can be awesome aswell. It did way better on killing deer. I wasn't thrilled with it but it was consistent in both the WM and Rums running 180-210gr bullets. I am hopeful of doing the same thing with the 25-06. P7M13 Well-Known Member. I had settled on a load that ran about 2850FPS with high single digit SD's for 5 round groups with the occasional 12-15 SD 5 round group. So far my gun likes the H1000/75. 5 Tetumbo powder. With 57 grains of Retumbo, Lapua brass, CCI br primers and 140 VLD I am getting 3080 fps. Reactions: jboy047 and AKUsername. used 168 smk and H1000, 68. Whether the difference reflects the performance of the powder, or the risk tolerance of the lawyers, who knows. The H1000 loads were five round groups at 300yds and the Retumbo loads were three round groups at 200yds. and ran out of Retumbo, which showed some promise. Not ideal for my . This summer, Runnings had both H1000 and Retumbo several times I was in there. Extreme Hotness I also run H1000 and Retumbo, they appear to swing with elevation and air density just as much as other non temp sensitive powders. 28" 1:8. com Our rifle liked the 68. Ultramag45; May 26, 2012; Replies 3 Views 4K. It is not an extreme powder like retumbo, h1000, or varget, etc. shoots the 180 grain bergers at 3100 fps. If you are using h1000 i would also look at some of the Enduron powders from IMR they have some that are a good substitute for retumbo and h1000 I don't have a 300 WM, but I do have a 300Winnie necked down to 7mm and I use H1000 (74g) and Retumbo w/ 7mm 180 Bergers to get to 3050fps. Both grouped about half MOA I'm interested in anyone elses experience with Retumbo and H1000. Don't have chrono results yet but 93grs shot the best. 5 MOA. Reactions: GLTaylor and 338 dude. Most especially for the savage 110ba with 300gr SMK b/c that is what im shooting. Wish I would have stocked up on some 200 gr accubonds before everything went to hell with supply issues lol. For what it's They work great in the 264 Win Mag though. Go figure. However, this powder is a little too fast to get the best velocity, so for more velocity and good accuracy I use H1000 or RL-22. Retumbo not at all, and ramshot magnum every once in a while. 765) and with zero pressure am getting 3115 for the 195. Joined Nov 20, 2021 Please see the picture below of the 94. 5, 57, 57. RL26 being the fastest by at least 100-200 fps with them all loaded to max. All of the above listed, have safe charges up to 2800 and beyond. Eman1982. However, H1000 has a very narrow range for that bullet weight, and I believe that Retumbo is better suited for 170+gr bullets. Picture above is that load at 654 yards. Thread starter Lonewolf74; Start date Nov 29, 2017; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum – Expert Gear Reviews & Tactical Tips Retumbo VS H1000. But data listed with the 264 WM uses much faster burning powders and with very low case fills. Joined Dec 15, 2001 Messages 469. Shooting the 156 EOL Berger. 300 Win Mag/208 A-Max. I am working with a load for my 7WSM that's below Alliants max that's sending 180 VLDs @ 3040 fps. they fell apart. I would t use retumbo data for r26 in any case, if that’s what you were thinking. I have been settled on that retumbo load for a couple years now and it has served me well. Sdvldog1371 Well-Known Member. Understanding H1000 Powder Physical Properties. H1000 ran about 70 FPS faster than Retumbo 4. 4 being my max. 0 gr of H1000 (97% case capacity) as max load at 2898 fps (26" bbl, 1:10 twist) However, once I loaded the Nosler 300's, with Retumbo, OMG! 5 shots all touching at 200yards! Subsequent groups were not as tight, but still way better than 1 MoA. H-1000 or Retumbo? Retumbo is a slower burnging powder than h1000. Thread starter anarchist; Start date Feb 19, 2014; anarchist Sergeant. Man the is really smokin' !! My 7mm Rem mag shoots 140 grain Nosler bullet into . The best velocity I can get with the H1000 is about 3080 fps. Rocketmandb Old Salt. you'll get more velocity out of retumbo with the 208 than h1000 but I don't know about accuracy. Joined Aug 23, 2009 Messages 744 Location I can find h1000 regularly. Red Rabbit Red Rabbit Looks like similar results with H1000 vs RL26 . Re: . Still all face to face and all sealed. Joined Jul 26, 2019 Messages 222 Location Springfield, OR. 0 retumbo case. X2. 0= IMR 7977 68. I’d like to try retumbo also. I can speak for that one but, Retumbo is slower than H1000 and, since I'm trying to get the best velocity out of this thing, I may try some retumbo to I tried H1000 and Retumbo. and have lots of them powders to play with i did Retumbo next imma try N570. 5 3171 61,500 PSI. With my 338, I use Retumbo and Reloader 25. 5 PRC recently as a powder that is accurate and provides good velocities. 5 creedmoor or . Recent Posts. I did notice in my gun the closer to the rifling the better the bullet shot. 7 gr, Max = 74. I haven't seen Retumbo consistently for 5 years so I completely quit using it. Reactions: Countrykang8 and WYO300RUM. If you were closer I'd give or trade you a few lbs of Retumbo. Joined Nov 14, 2018 R33 is a double based powder, and will have more energy that a single base powder like Retumbo or H1000. New posts Search forums. Don't know what your rifle will like but, my pet load with 220gr SMK has been: Win brass Rem 9 1/2m primers ( I happed to have a lot on the shelf so I RL26 is most ideal for 225 to 230 grain bullets, next is H1000. 338 Lapua Mag 165 is kinda fast for both 250 and 300gr. Jan 29, 2020. Rating - 100%. If the chrono was correct, I hit 3050FPS with 70. bullets. If I try it later, I’ll add it. 4 grains of Retumbo, 154 interbonds with Win Nickel and Win Mag Primers. . Retumbo appears to be a slower burner then H1000. 0C gr. You could also assume that H1000 might be the best choice for 225's and Retumbo might be the best for 250 and 300's. 025 off lands. I’ve used Retumbo in both the . I used the same exact case for H1000 and Retumbo. 230's on top of H1000 @2910 fps good out to 1800 , played with the 250's and Retumbo they were just OKish @2793fps and nowhere near as accurate, they were fine inside 1000, when it came to stretching its legs . 70. 5MOA/<20ES. I'll do everything I can to get H1000 to shoot in a given cartridge. It seems the cartridges in Hodgdon's guide lists a higher charge weight vs Retumbo without a compressed load. 26", 1:8, 5R, X-Caliber (Savage). H1000 gave me the worst grouping and velocity compared to Reloader 22 and Hodgdon 4831SC. I use Norma brass, 215 Fed primers, and 79 grains of Retumbo. 25 gr. Anybody have any experience with these powders in 7mm Mag applications? I chronographed some old 160 grain Sierra SBT Game Kings The 7 Mag performs well with powders like H1000 and Retumbo with the heavy bullets. DIBBS Old Mountain Man-Tired occasionally Grumpy SOB. But surely is a slower burn rate. But don't buy a bunch of that ammo in bulk. 5's like a 6. Joined Apr 3, 2014 Otherwise I’d stick with H1000, Retumbo or H4831SC. 5-69 grns of H1000 area with a 180 ELD-M and that 65 grns of H4831 SC with the same bullet. Longrangers Well-Known Member. 0 grains retumbo max for the 208 what you guys think is better powder for the . Reactions: Kmccord. I have to get my load developed before elk season. I'm getting around 2975 fps. x of either powder in If h1000 wont get there may need something else, maybe retumbo? Its been abit faster than h1000 for me in my 28 nosler stuff. For my gun, the choice would be H1000, Retumbo, IMR-8133 and then R-26 (In That Order). Like the title states, looking to buy either H1000 and/or Retumbo. whirlwindjml Well-Known Member. 0 3140 55,000 PSI 67. guntender. Love this bullet's performance, but I have experienced excessive Copper I did a fairly extensive search on this site and came up with a starting load which is 89 gr. I beleive it's 81. For the 140 grain bullets, they have powders listed that are very fast burning (IMR 4320) with only 68% case fill retumbo can take the changes. What's new. 338 Norma AI but I have 16lbs to burn, just a bummer because a week after my big purchase I scored 20 lbs of Retumbo! I was running Retumbo in . Your observations / comments welcome. I was looking for some load data with Retumbo but the lightest bullet I found published data for was 117 grains. RL26 H1000 or Retumbo. 165 and up Retumbo is the ticket. Now with my new reamer and barrel brux 26 inch 1;8 I ran h1000 max out at 3050, retumbo maxed out at 3100 but n570 maxed out at 3200. Anyone have any preferences for either H1000 or Retumbo for . Both had decent accuracy, but I couldn't get the speed I wanted out of the H1000. and 8 lb. HDY SP H1000 . Pretty identical results with either 285 ELD-Ms and 300 A-Tips at the target with the same loads. 5gr Retumbo, 82. I use H1000 for 300-NM and 338-LM. I have H1000 H4831SC and Retumbo on hand. I've always had better luck with H1000 than Retumbo out of everything I've ever shot the stuff in personally from 264 Win Mag, 7 Rem Mag, 7-300 Win Mag, 300 Win Mag, 300 RUM, and 338 EDGE H1000 is a standby powder for me. I'm using 75. my stw loves retumbo. H1000 is okay with 300 gr. I have seen others with n568, n570 have good results but since I have Retumbo on hand I wanted to try this first. WKR. I'm very pleased with the results. H1000 and Retumbo are two very different powders. Juggerxxx Sergeant. In the pics it’s not a fair comparison. Running N568 as alternate to Retumbo Running N565 as alternate to RL 26 and H1000 in a pinch Burn rates are right in that group and FPS is within 20-30 per rifle when compared to Retumbo. For Retumbo Ramshot Magnum fastest at . If you are using h1000 i would also look at some of the Enduron powders from IMR they have some that are a good substitute for retumbo and h1000. 0g of N560 at 2800 fps at 0. 5 grains H1000, with the 162 grain Amax: 68F 2920fps 59F 2937fps 41F 2948fps 23F 2948fps Approximately 28fps increase in MV as temperatures dropped from 68F to Devil ball powder, Vs. 1 gr, Max = 76. 5gr N560, and yesterday tested N570 and tested up to 94gr without any pressure signs. 0 grains the chrono said 3005 if I recall Correctly. 5 Sherman recently. Are you still seating long? Did you load any at mag length with good results? If I load the 300 bergers to max mag length in my gun around 3. We have huge temp swings here in Az, so the temp stable powders are necessary, like H1000 and some have tried IMR Enduron H1000 or Retumbo for 250/270 grain bullets in 338 Lapua? Thread starter WEATHERBY460; Start date Jan 13, 2023; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum – Expert Gear Reviews & Tactical Tips Become a supporting Some of the powders they tried were StaBALL HD, Magnum, LRT, Retumbo, H4831, & IMR7828SSC. Currently using RL 26 in a 22” barrel, longer barrels may favor the slower powders listed. I tried HD Staball, N560, H4831sc, and Retumbo. es is 3 fps. Varget, H1000 and H4350 should be back in distribution by April, Retumbo should be available sometime April to June. Retumbo wasn't as good as the first two. For what it's worth, the Hornady cookbook says it will. I tried it due to very high ES using 210 VLD's with H1000. Re: VihtaVuori or Retumbo for . 300RUM. sp6x6. I tend to favor H1000 just because I'd rather give up a little velocity for tighter ES/SD, especially when shooting at longer ranges where that tighter ES/SD is more evident on the H1000 vs Retumbo. wapitibob I’ve got a pile of h1000 and Berger 175 elite hunters and hoping for good results. I like H1000 for the 210 and below pills. Joined May 31, 2017 Messages 468 Location Pennsylvania. Thanks for your interest! January 12 I am shooting the Berger 115gr VLD in 25-06 caliber. H1000, retumbo, N570, rl 26, magnum powders. 8 western really decent velocity with When comparing H1000 vs. Mar 24, 2023 #4 W. I got pressure with all of the powders as velocity approached 2,800 FPS. luckystryke; Jan 19, 2024; Replies 13 Views 4K. R25- R26- IMR7977- H1000 Reloader 26 Reloader 25 H1000 Retumbo Ramshot Magnum N570 Looking at reaching 2800 FPS in my 26" . G. It was also just slightly more accurate. Velocitiy runs 75-100FPS higher with Retumbo as well at 2900FPS. I can hit a 1-mile target with all four of them. Joined Jan 17, 2021 Messages 2,651 Location North Carolina. Good luck. I use Retumbo also in my STW with 180 gr. Or one of the vihtavuori powders . I have a friend that has enough H1000 for 20 more rounds and then he's done. 5= H1000 67. 5 tw, maybe I'll get back to them sometime when i'm bored , but the PRC just plain likes the 230's Powders include H1000, N565, H4831SC, RL23, and Retumbo. 280 RCBS 30-Degree Improved, loading 62. Articles. I tried several different powders in my 264 WM including RL 25 but ended up finding Retumbo was the best powder in my gun. Joined Jan 5, 2016 Messages 1,571 Location Orygun. I've tried RE 22, IMR 7828, H1000 and Retumbo now. Reactions: Mahziar. So I have a couple pounds of H1000 and was looking at that to use. So you would assume that if H1000 is the best choice for 250 and 300 grain bullets it would also be the best choice for 225 grain bullets. Though Quickload and most reloading manuals indicate I would be well over 100% case fill with LRT, that doesn't seem to be the case. 5 PRC with pretty good speeds and results. BlazerBeam; Oct 16, 2022; 2 Have you fellas worked with H1000? Check this out, in my July 08 issue of guns and ammo they have an article about bolt VS. I have had really good success with H1000 and Retumbo in my 7mm RM and 300 WM, I really like it. gcj qlcxr yezebd gwrkdcj quht dqkvsg vfaic opryat wgixwpih iecw mimx osuztz fpfq aci iab